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Let's Play Umineko Chiru, Episode 6 Scene 21: The Golden Sorceror's Fight
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His corpse was found in a guest room.
Furudo Erika did not perform a detailed investigation, so the details of the cause of death are unknown.

The same. Her corpse was found in the VIP room.

The same. her corpse was found in Krauss's study.

The same. Her corpse was found in her room.

The same. Her corpse was found in the parlor.

The same. Her corpse was found in the parlor.

First, all of the rooms form closed rooms with the window locks and chain locks, so that interference from the outside would be DIFFICULT. The only exception is the parlor, where Rosa and Maria lay DEAD.
Please, allow me to speak. Let it be known that the door was barred with a hat stand.
It is thought to be substantially the same as a chain lock, in that it can only be set from the inside.
It is probably their goal to construct closed rooms where explanations using master keys are made completely INEFFECTIVE. The parlor has no chain lock due to its very nature, so it is natural that something else would be used in the chain's PLACE.
In that case, even though it should have been more beautiful to throw them in there, so that everyone would be inside a chain lock closed room, they did not. This hat stand door bar in the parlor seems very suspicious. I should probably pursue this when demanding red truths. Also, we have corpses, but are they the same absolute deaths with their necks sliced open like in the last game, which could be confirmed even without the detective's authority?
Please, allow me to speak. Know that there were no corpses that could have been confirmed dead with certainty by physical means.
Please, allow me to speak. We cannot deny the possibility that any one of these corpses might be a faked death.
Well, I doubt Battler will easily confirm their deaths in red even if I tell him to. Sheesh...
I liked Beato's chain of six closed rooms better. However, these closed rooms are even more complete, considering that master keys are of no help at all.
There are two general ways of breaking closed rooms that Battler might be after. An illusion of a closed room, or an illusion of a crime. It'll be one of those.
I get the first one. That's when something looks like a closed room, but it actually isn't, right? What do you mean by an illusion of a crime?
An illusion that makes it seem as though a crime has occurred. In other words, are they really dead?
Come on, are you kidding me? If the people inside are alive, handling any kind of closed room is like pissing in a toilet. Still, with this closed room... it's pretty hard to think of any other answer.
What about the endless possibilities of manipulating the chain lock from the outside? We don't know if there are secret doors, ways to kill from a distance, chances of suicide, or even whether these are complete closed rooms in the first place.
I already know, since I'm looking at Battler's game board from the underside, but these are perfect closed rooms. They can only be constructed from the inside, and there exists no method by which to construct, deconstruct, or interfere with them from the outside.
Can you say that in red?
That'd be a little too rude to Battler, so no. If you do love me, you must see my words as red truth, right?
Then the closed rooms are perfect. In other words, this is an illusion of a crime.
It does seem that way. If so, these are all trick closed rooms. Doesn't this mean that everyone got so pissed at Erika bragging about detectives and stuff that they joined together and set up a fake murder to make fun of her? Oh, is that the right answer? I'm, like, a super detective!
No detective proclamation has been made, but she is very accurate when examining corpses. I could almost even give her examinations the red truth.
So? Does that mean that they were definitely dead when Erika examined their corpses?
Yes, that's right. Totally.
But you won't say it in red for her, right? And that poor Erika must want it sooooo bad.
Well, she isn't the detective this time around. I won't give her any red.
However... that makes it incredible. This time, Battler's really made a perfect closed room!
Oh, is that so?
Will Erika be alright? It looks like an ordinary closed room murder at a glance, but this one is pretty nasty. Won't this load be a bit too heavy for Erika without her detective's authority?
She is a self-proclaimed detective. I'm sure she'll pull through. If Battler and Beato are defeated by a mere human who isn't even a detective, they'd fall apart in the most exquisite way, don't you think?
And even if Erika loses, you get to play by throwing her into the worst Fragment and knocking her into the depths of oblivion?
Exactly. No matter how we fall, it won't be boring.
You really are heartless, aren't you? Well, wringing out this black cat like a towel and licking up every last drop is my only bliss!
Beato's game board did entertain me for quite some time, but we've already wrung everything we can from it.
Sheesh. And I wanted to play with you forever in this game. What a shame.
Come now. I've spent plenty of time with you already. Go find me another interesting game. If you do, I'll play with you again...
Ah... yes, you really don't let me get bored. That's all right, Bernkastel. Seeing your face twist with anguish is the one forbidden honey I've found for myself.

BGM: Where
Yes, I'm satisfied. So, about our war of red and blue. Shall we start right away, or do it all at the end?
I don't like putting things off. I think the same goes for you.
Then let's get started with the closed rooms of the first twilight. First, I'd like to check. Do you intend to respond if I ask you to repeat something in red?
Depending on what you say, yes. I have no obligation to respond to all, and I won't reveal my reasons when I refuse.
Good. Then, let's start simple and confirm the definition of a closed room. Dlanor! Please read it aloud.
First. The rooms with the six people in them are all closed ROOMS.
Acknowledged. Of course, that's only until Gohda and the others severed the chains and destroyed the closed rooms.
In other words, no trickery done from the outside can construct a closed room. It is not permitted for a chain lock to be reset from the outside by a skilfully used wire, for example.
I didn't need you to tell me that. Dlanor, please continue.
Third. The definition of a closed room impllies that all forms of interference that pass between the inside and outside of the room are PREVENTED.
Acknowleddged. However, I won't deny the kinds of interference that you'd expect from a normal room, such as knocks, voices, and the extension telephone line.
Fourth. At the time of the deconstruction of the closed rooms, none existed within the rooms except the VICTIMS (Natsuhi, Eva, Kyrie, Rosa, Maria, Battler).
Acknowledged.
Fifth. No murder was committed after the deconstruction of the closed ROOMS.
Why? Because the victims really were alive after the closed rooms were destroyed? So, Krauss and the others who crowded in were the culrpits and committed the murders then. In other words, it was a murder after the closed rooms. Is it because this is the truth?!
No, that's not true. The murders will continue to occur, so we cannot say in red that no murders will happen after this.
Sheesh, what twisted logic. You probably see what we're getting at. Krauss's group cut the chain and destroyed the closed rooms, then killed the people inside. I just want you to argue against this.
Lady Erika, it is insufficient to refer to 'Krauss's group', an unspecified number of PEOPLE. You should first check to see which humans entered the room after the closed room was DECONSTRUCTED.
Allow me to speak. Excepting the victims, those who entered the closed rooms were Krauss, Rudolf, Hideyoshi and Gohda.
Allow me to speak. This is based on hearsay. There is no proof that others did not enter.
I know that already. Let's have you repeat that. 'After the deconstruction of the closed rooms, then excluding me, only Krauss, Rudolf, Hideyoshi and Gohda entered the rooms.'
Sure. Acknowledged. However, this only applies to the current point in time. It's possible that some later development in the game will cause more people to enter.
Repeat it. 'Krauss, Rudolf, Hideyoshi and Gohda are not culprits.'
Why not answer? If we refuse, they'll leave behind a blue truth saying that Krauss and the others were culprits.
...Sure, I'll acknowledge it, but I'll make the language more strict. Krauss, Rudolf, Hideyoshi and Gohda were not involved in the murders of Natsuhi, Eva, Kyrie, Rosa, Maria and Battler.
And that means it was also impossible for any of the others humans, who didn't even enter the closed room, to have been involved in those murders, doesn't it?
Who knows. Think about it yourself. If you think you can build up some blue truth for how a closed room murder can be committed without entering the room, then I'll respond with the red truth. However, I only need to destroy one of the blue truths you'll be presenting from here on out. In other words, even if you do manage to use the blue truth and explain this away with some long-distance closed room murder trick X, I don't necessarily have to counter that with the red truth.
The witch side only needs to defend one single riddle. The human side, on the other hand, has to solve every single riddle to win.

In any event, you've refused to repeat that last one, right?
Don't kid yourself. I don't give out red for free.
...Not bad. Looks like you can handle being a player on the witch side pretty well, too.
Your experience is no match for mine.
Tch... Dlanor!
Of course, there were no suicides or accidental deaths.
Seventh. The victims--
Are you SURE? There are still items...
Yes, that will do fine. I've confirmed the status of the crime scene. From here on, it's time for me to argue back with the blue truth.
Sure, fine. Let me hear your masterful theories.
When she read about Beatrice and Battler's old battles, she thought those looked fun, too.
Beato can't help but feel a small twinge of jealousy...
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